Since I saw a bit under the weather this week, I took things easy so my body could rest and heal.  But by yesterday, even though I wasn't 100%, I was antsy.

I heard Dad's voice in my head, "Get up and move around.  You'll feel better."

It's a prescription I've often heard, frequently as a child and as an adult, Dad's voice pops up with the urge even though he' in my head.  Sometimes I heed it too soon and end up getting sicker...but in recent years, it seems to kick in at the right time.

Which leads me to the Sunday question:

What piece(s) of advice do you most remember from your parents?

 


Comments

Sally

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:00:02

I remember as if it were yesterday, ny dad's voice saying "you're making the biggest mistake of your life, marryng him". It turmed out, that he was right. as usual. But I was 18 and knew it all !!!

 

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:23:30

That's funny, Sally (ironic, not ha-ha), because earlier I started to answer the question but decided not to do so. The piece of advice I most remember? "You're too young to get married." (Last thing my parent said to me before I went down the aisle.)

We celebrated our 20th anniversary last month.

 

Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:56:32

Yikes - where to start? My parents offered more advice than most star systems have asteroids. Sampler for your review that sticks in my head:

Don't eat so fast (never slowed me down)
You have to get a job with good benefits (something I have NEVER listened to)
Everything is open to examination/nothing is sacred (thank God for this one!)
There's a right way and a wrong way (sorry Dad, not always true)

Erik

 

Steve Peden

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:20:28

Well, you asked for it:

During my VERY BRIEF fling with liberalism, when arguing politics with my father (a LIFELONG Democrat, BTW), I was promoting some utopian scheme, and he looked at me like I'd grown a second head, and said, "You want the GOVERNMENT to do this?? Boy, have you been PAYING ATTENTION??? The Government can screw up a one-car parade!"

And, he was right, of course.

 

Laura

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:06:17

Sally,

Interesting! When did he impart this advice?

Of course, if you hadn't married him, we wouldn't have Pamela and Marian (and Sarah and Melissa and Amelia!). And you might have Dad but we wouldn't have you.

All in all...I'm glad it worked out the way it did...I'm just sorry for all the garbage it cost you to get here.

There's a song by Rascall Flats called "Bless the Broken Road." It talks about the pain it sometimes costs to get where we wanted to be all along. I think you'd like it.

Look it up on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lCfyWJBx_I)

 

Laura

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:13:28

Ken,

Do you feel you were young (not "too young," but young) when you look back?

I ask because when I look at photos (and think of how much Dan and I have changed over the past 27 years), I feel like we were such kids, setting out on such a brave (almost foolhardy) adventure.

I'm sometimes amazed we've stayed together having married so young, but then I think about the man I married...and various iterations of the man I've been married to (and he likewise has had different Lauras over the years)...and all of the work we've done to get through the rough patches.

That's when I realize it's not about how young you are when you get married. It's about how well you grow together.

That and a fair share of good fortune, laughter and the support of family and friends, too.

Congratulations on the 20 years (again). That's quite an achievement these days.

 

Laura

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:16:39

Erik,

We had different variations on eating rules:

"Sit up straight while you're at the table."
"Eat the brussells sprouts. Your Mom worked hard to fix them for you."
"Wait a half hour after eating before going in the pool."

I found it interesting that you got both of the last pieces of advice from the same parents.

One says to examine everything. The other says, there's only one way to do things correctly. Hmmm. I like the way you resolved the conflict by examining (and discarding) the latter.

 

Laura

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:18:57

Steve,

Very funny!

Of course, government is not alone in its ability to screw up a one-car parade. Plenty of businesses and individuals do so with some regularity.

You may be interested to know that I was a conservative when I first became politically aware.

That had changed by the time I got around to voting, however.

Nice having you "here"!

 

Steve Peden

Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:44:55

Thanks for the welcome. As I mentioned, I had a brief fling with liberalism in my early years, too. Started when I was around 15, ended (with a CRASH!) when I got my first W-2 paycheck. "I earned how much, and I get to keep HOW much?!?!?!?!" That, and my Dad's DEEP distrust of the government, pretty much got me there.

Yes, private businesses screw up all the time. If we'd pull our heads out of rectal defillade, and let them pay the consequences for their screw ups, it would be better for everyone. (I am NOT a fan of the "bail out.") The government, short of revolution or being conquered by an outside invader, can't "fail" - it just keeps raising taxes and printing phony money.

 

Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:43:47

<i>Do you feel you were young (not "too young," but young) when you look back?</i>

Not really, no.

A huge gloss of that would probably end up sounding like the man "doth protest too much" but I had a number of things that happened in childhood that made me grow up pretty quick.

Certainly, I felt old enough to understand what I was doing and to make an important life decision.

In my experience, most advice that I've received in my life (particularly unsolicited advice) has been passive-aggressive (and you know how much I love p-a behavior) more about getting the adviser's thoughts on the record so that he can say "I told you so" rather than in the hopes that it would be of genuine help to the advisee.

But part of what Sally's response made me realize is that it in my example it was probably the timing (context) of the "advice" that made it memorable not the content.

So, maybe a modification might make it more in the spirit of a typical Sunday question--what was the <best> piece of advice you remember getting?

In that case the answer would probably be when the same parent said to try not to take own a lot of debt early in your adulthood.

First, it turned out to be right on the money (no pun intended), but secondly it was advise given in direct response to a specific request advice (i.e. I noted how many people at my summer internship hated their jobs and hence their lives and wanted to know how to keep that from happening to me) and hence more likely to be listened to and heeded.

 

Tue, 28 Oct 2008 08:45:28

Insert the word "best" above, which was deleted when I tried to bold it but the code didn't work.

 

Sally

Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:27:04

I should have prefaced my little saga, by saying that I was an only child. That alone puts somewhat of a different slant to my dad's thinking.Suffice it to say that I was VERY spoiled and he probably[and rightly so] didn't feel that I would be able to cope with the give and take that marriage requires. I will say that to my credit, I lasted 30 years.!!!!!

 

Laura

Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:02:15

Steve,

Why am I not surprised that you're not a fan of the bailout? <grin>

My view is more pragmatic than anything else...I don't like it but do think it was necessary in order to prevent another depression.

YMMV?

 

Laura

Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:12:41

Ken,

Your point about your life experience and how it forced you to grow up sooner than most is well taken. I remember feeling awed by how much life Dan had lived already, how much pain he'd survived...and I felt quite inexperienced by contrast.

I was positive he was the right guy though...and interestingly, I also was advised not to marry him (like Sally was). Not by my folks but by my wedding coordinator!

Regarding unsolicited advice, Erik has a new guideline: "No unsolicited advice to adults!" I find that I like the concept very much.

As an experienced passive-aggressive, my unsolicited advice was most often an attempt to mould behavior along lines I found acceptable rather than anything else.

I do find with Chad and Jeremy that it's awfully difficult to allow the roles to change from "quasi-parent who often gives unsolicited advice" to "interested adult friend who trusts them to make their own decisions (mistakes or not)." They're the ones with whom I most often break the Erik-guideline. But I'm working on it!

As to your best piece of advice...it wasn't one we grokked until a few years after our marriage. We got into debt right away (and with some vigor) and it took us a while to dig out. Painful, but an excellent life lesson.

 

Laura

Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:14:19

Sally,

Hmmm...the fact that you stuck with it for 30 years sort of belies the idea that you were "spoiled."

That seems like a lot of give and take, to me!

 

Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:34:06

Maybe that's a hidden advantage to being the youngest. Nobody wants your advice growing up, so you don't acquire the habit of giving it out all the time. :)

 

Steve Peden

Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:20:24

Laura,

My opposition to the bailout is not ENTIRELY ideological - it is at least as much practical. My life experience, my historical knowledge, and my economic studies all compel me to the conclusion that, inevitably, when the government intervenes in situations like this, the intervention makes it WORSE, not better.

You won't like it, but you really should read Amity Shlaes' new book about Roosevelt and the Depression. Instructive reading for these times.

 

Mom #1

Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:07:47

Laura, regarding the vegetable rules, you forgot to mention hiding the Brussela sprouts in your milk.
My rules were as follows:

Propriety

How sad we must wait so long to become Participants.
I was weaned early from the cup of primal urges
In the name of propriety:
Keep your legs together.
Don’t speak to strangers.
Mind your manners.
Nice girls don’t say, “Shit!”

I spent the second half of life learning to be free –
To become a participant in that from which I was protected.
All the pleasures earth placed at my fingertips
Would not send me straight to hell.
I am a good woman, slow to bloom.

And they lied to me.


 

Laura

Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:06:41

Thanks, Steve. I'll pick up a copy of the book.

 

Laura

Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:10:18

I didn't hide the brussel sprouts in my milk, that was Charlie!

I like that poem more every time I see it, Mom.

 



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